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America’s Housing Crisis Has a Data Problem. Trent Livingston Wants to Fix It.

ZoneLex co-founder and CEO Trent Livingston returns to That Tech Pod, five years after his first appearance in Episode 3, to talk about why zoning is one of the least visible and most consequential pieces of the housing puzzle, and why that makes it a data problem before it is a policy problem.

That Tech Pod episode graphic: America’s Housing Crisis Has a Data Problem. Trent Livingston Wants to Fix It.
Trent Livingston, Co-Founder and CEO of ZoneLex, on That Tech Pod.

A lot has changed since that first episode. Trent was leading ESI Analyst at the time, solving data discovery problems for the legal industry. Today he is applying the same foundation to something bigger: America’s housing crisis.

The conversation gets into why fragmented, constantly changing local regulations determine what gets built, where it gets built, and whether the housing Americans need can actually get approved. That is not just a policy problem. It is a data problem.

Trent also breaks down the thinking behind the ZoneLex approach to Applied AI and small language models, and why bigger models are not necessarily better for enterprise applications. His case for a different kind of AI is simple: know the land, know the laws.

In this episode

  • Why zoning law is the missing piece of the housing crisis
  • Applied AI and small language models
  • Turning complex legal data into real-world solutions
  • When technology starts to outpace the laws governing it

Know the land. Know the laws.

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